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‘Flintshire Council has turned dream into nightmare’

Published date: 18 October 2010 |
Published by: Hayley Collins


 

PLANS to transform a derelict building into a dream family home are hanging in the balance.

Rik Pinchin bought the Grade II listed Bryn Awel Farm in Pentre Halkyn in 2008 and had visions of transforming the Georgian property into a family home and bed and breakfast, but is now facing financial ruin before any work has even begun.

For the past two years he has been embroiled in a bitter battle with conservation officers at Flintshire Council.

Mr Pinchin, a security engineer, had originally applied for planning permission to restore the building, but was advised by structural engineers that it was beyond repair.

He then reapplied for permission to demolish the farmhouse and build a near identical house on the land.

Despite being recommended for refusal by Flintshire Council’s planning officers, members voted to grant planning permission in May.

The resolution is now being considered by building guardian Cadw and the Welsh Assembly Government which can either ratify the decision or recommend the application is considered at a public inquiry.

WAG is now requesting more building reports and evidence, but Mr Pinchin, 35, who has already spent thousands of pounds on planning drawings, surveys and structural reports, says he cannot afford to throw any more money at the project.

“What they don’t realise is every time they want this information it costs me a lot of money,” he said.

“I’m just a self-employed, working man and for me to keep forking out for this extra information is hard going.

“I’m not a businessman or a developer, I’m just one man trying to build a family home.”

Mr Pinchin says the situation is making him ill.

He added: “I’ve now been signed off work with stress and I’ve got to go for an ECG. This is what the council is driving me to.

“I feel like I’m in a war and all I’ve got is a penknife and the other side have got a great big machine gun.”

Built in 1796, the building became the Red Lion pub in 1907 before being used as a home until 1985.

It has now gone to rack and ruin and become an eyesore in the village.

Even the Georgian Group agreed the property was “beyond practical repair”.

Mr Pinchin has blasted Flintshire Council for dragging out the process.

“I totally realise there are protocols to follow when dealing with planning, but in a time of cutbacks, spending reviews and possible job losses in the public sector, it makes you wonder how Flintshire Council can justify the costs in dragging this case out for so long and the resources it must have used,” he said.

But Andy Roberts, the council’s planning and environmental strategy manager, said the council was merely following protocol.

He said: “While the facts of how the subsequent application was dealt with are correct, it should be noted that the local authority has no direct powers to grant permission to demolish a listed building, and that is why all such committee resolutions must be referred to Cadw, and not just in this instance.”

Mr Pinchin has enlisted the help of Brynford councillor Matt Wright and MP David Hanson to help fight his corner and says the support he has received from locals has been overwhelming.

He added: “I would just like to say thank you to everyone for all their help and support.

“Everyone now just wants to see the house come down and something nice in its place.”

The house’s fate is set to be decided at a meeting in December.

Mr Pinchin added: “If it goes against me then there’s nothing else I can do and I will have to leave the house and it will remain in that state for years to come.”

He has now launched a petition in Pentre Halkyn Post Office calling for the appeal to be supported.

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  1. Posted by: a cahill at 10:11 on 18 October 2010 Report

    A clear case of too many cooks spoiling the broth.... one hand not knowing what the other is up to !!!......complying with the law is all very well until 4 differen bodiest get involved and apply their own different criteria to something that should be easy to resolve

  2. Posted by: Common sense at 10:24 on 18 October 2010 Report

    I agree,too many self important regulatory bodies justifiying their own existance and jobs by complicating a relatively easy building process. would they would rather let it sit and rot into dust over the next 20 years rather than do anything constructive?

  3. Posted by: Roland Cleth at 12:00 on 18 October 2010 Report

    So, he bought the house, THEN applied for planning permission?

  4. Posted by: rikexplore at 15:51 on 18 October 2010 Report

    Unfortunately, one cannot obtain planning on house you dont own. I wish it were that easy, but to spend thousands on engineers reports and achitects drawing prior to a sale would not be in anyones best interest.

  5. Posted by: janeydavies at 16:02 on 18 October 2010 Report

    Totally feel for this case, fintshire panning are known throughout wales for this behaviour. The public need to show their support here. Somethings just cannot be saved, cost factor needs to come into this. CADW need to be realistic when happy slapping listings on houses. the locals should stand together and help make a difference as i read about this kind of thing all the time.

  6. Posted by: wonderwho at 17:01 on 18 October 2010 Report

    Flintshire CC needs an in depth review of the way it is run, the big problem is the people who would go in to review it are as bad as they are so I do not know the real answer to the problem, many good local people have fallen foul of the total Incompetent lot.

  7. Posted by: marymoo at 17:48 on 18 October 2010 Report

    CADW need to sort themselves out, this building should of not been listed in the first place. the public need to support these kind of cases and get in touch with the council. flintshire cc need to see reality and start helping the village community, im in full support of this case. it seems if they want a listed building demolished, it happens overnight! wasnt cottage hospital listed?

  8. Posted by: penyffordd_district at 17:52 on 18 October 2010 Report

    rikexplore at 15:51 said "one cannot obtain planning on house you dont own." I have been told that this is not so and you can apply for planning permission on a building you do not own. Would anyone verify or am I talking pants?

  9. Posted by: althebuilder at 18:01 on 18 October 2010 Report

    I suppose with the express permission of the owner you could ask for planning. But would be shear stupidity, i would not spend alot of money in trying to get planning unless i owned the house. unfortunately i have experience with flintshire planning and conservation and they know how to take there time. I sympathise with this case and have heard many like it.

  10. Posted by: shirlwatching at 18:39 on 18 October 2010 Report

    I suppose with minimal houses being built in todays climate planning officers have to justify their time some how. I always thought the public council were here to support the community, clearly not. The fact commitee members supported demolition, and the support of local MP, this should count. But the voice of the public no longer counts. Myself and my husband support this case.

  11. Posted by: shirlwatching at 18:42 on 18 October 2010 Report

    As for comments of what could of been done, hindsight is wonderful.

  12. Posted by: Roland Cleth at 08:28 on 19 October 2010 Report

    Yes, you can apply for planning on a third party's property - obviously with their consent. Again, with hindsight, perhaps a purchase contract, conditional on the grant of planning permission, should have been the way forward. I wonder if Mr. Pinchin's solicitors suggested this to him?

  13. Posted by: shirlwatching at 10:56 on 19 October 2010 Report

    I am shure your idea would be practical in an ideal world. Where the seller is willing to wait 2 years for flintshire planning to find the right book to tell them what to do!! In a less complicated case it would be an option, like a small extension. I have had similar problems and sometimes this solution is just not possible.

  14. Posted by: Roland Cleth at 14:32 on 19 October 2010 Report

    True, an option is another alternative, but the parties will in, basically, the same position. The problem appears to be that Mr. Pinchin did not do his homework before buying; if he had done, then he'd have been able to anticipate the requirements of the Council and the unfortunate time-consuming involvement of CADW and the SWAG.

  15. Posted by: shirlwatching at 17:47 on 19 October 2010 Report

    sounds like you work for flintshire planning!!

 

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