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Mosque opens at Wrexham Miners' Institute

Published date: 02 September 2010 |
Published by: Claire Gallagher


 

A MOSQUE has opened in Wrexham at the former Miners’ Institute building.

Wrexham Muslim Association finalised the purchase of the building on Grosvenor Road last week and worshippers are now using the space for daily prayers.

Association chairman Dr Ikram Shah said Muslims in the area had been looking for a permanent base in Wrexham for 20 years. They have had to use temporary facilities to worship and recently used Rhosddu Community Centre and a site at Glyndwr University.

During this time they have been saving to buy a building to use as a mosque and have also received funding from the community.

The building, which has a prayer hall and another hall, has a maximum capacity of about 800 people but there are only about 15-20 worshippers using it daily.

Dr Shah said at peak religious times the maximum number of people would probably be 200.

The mosque will offer a Madrasah for teaching Quran, a library, a day centre, function room for Islamic events, a community hall and funeral services, which are all not available to the local Muslims at the moment.

The mosque is in a conservation area which means the outside of the building must not be altered in any way but a council spokesman said planning permission was not needed to change the use of the building.

Dr Shah said parking was “not adequate” and would be reserved for disabled, women and children. He said it was expected most worshippers would walk to the
mosque.

He added no major work would be carried out inside the building except for repairs and paintwork.

In a statement the association said: “It has been a 20 year effort to get to this point.

The place will be used for religious, educational and cultural activities

“We wish to thank the local faith groups especially the Wrexham churches and the community in general for their support.”

The Miners’ Institute first opened in 1923 and closed its doors in 2008 because of a “lack of patronage and financial constraints”.

A group has been set up on social networking site Facebook in opposition to the mosque but Dr Shah said: “We have had a lot of support from local churches and communities.

“If people have any doubts obviously, once we are up and running, we’d be happy to ask them to come around and speak to us. We have preserved the Institute for
the community and hope to have open days in future.”

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  1. Posted by: SPEAKER OF TRUTH at 12:37 on 01 September 2010 Report

    The traffic on Grosvenor Road is going to be unbeliveable on a Friday! Its bad at the best of times.

  2. Posted by: SPEAKER OF TRUTH at 12:41 on 01 September 2010 Report

    The traffic on Grosvenor Road is going to be unbeliveable on a Friday! Its bad at the best of times.

  3. Posted by: Roland Cleth at 12:55 on 01 September 2010 Report

    Wow, they got that finished quickly if it opened today and they only bought it on Friday. If they could let me know who their builders are I've got some jobs for them.

  4. Posted by: eveningreader at 14:57 on 01 September 2010 Report

    Traffic congestion will surely be a problem.

  5. Posted by: eveningreader at 15:00 on 01 September 2010 Report

    A spokesman for the Wrexham Muslim Association said: “There is nothing in this rumour we are setting up a mosque at the Miners Institute. We simply do not have enough money to do anything like that." DAILY POST MARCH 3.

  6. Posted by: MOUNTAIN MAN at 15:02 on 01 September 2010 Report

    The only people to blame for the very poor traffic management in Wrexham are Wrexham Council,it all boils down to interference from the people who know best god bless em.

  7. Posted by: MOUNTAIN MAN at 15:06 on 01 September 2010 Report

    evening reader they must have had a pull or maybe a grant who knows.

  8. Posted by: eveningreader at 15:19 on 01 September 2010 Report

    £250,000 has been raised rather quickly. The WMA previously stated that they did not have such funds. There again, they said the Miners Institute was nothing more than a rumour.

  9. Posted by: eveningreader at 15:20 on 01 September 2010 Report

    Interesting articles and readers' comments http://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/87559/facebook-group-set-up-to-raise-cash-for-wrexham-mosque.aspx

  10. Posted by: eveningreader at 15:21 on 01 September 2010 Report

    http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2010/03/03/police-probe-anti-muslim-website-attacking-mosque-plan-55578-25949727/

  11. Posted by: liberty1 at 17:05 on 01 September 2010 Report

    what a pleasant surprise ,I was expecting a number of the regular contributers to have been on here with their negative responses but so far the comments have been civil and nonjudgemental ,good point about traffic as this has been a cause of concern in other towns/cities .

  12. Posted by: td1970 at 17:31 on 01 September 2010 Report

    The traffic on Grosvenor Rd will be terrible because the kids are back at school. All the moaning minnies complaining about the Miners closing weren't using it enough or it wouldnt have closed would it? I'm not religious but I'd rather see the Miners used for something than fall into rack and ruin - it's been empty for two years.

  13. Posted by: greenflyer at 17:46 on 01 September 2010 Report

    just shows how much truth was spoken in their previous stories

  14. Posted by: a cahill at 21:30 on 01 September 2010 Report

    Better than having it bulldozed by some property developer..... accidentally like !!

  15. Posted by: Rhys ap Gethin at 22:01 on 01 September 2010 Report

    I am also impressed by the rational comments to this story, compared to the racist rants on Facebook. What are the doing wrong? They aren't bothering anyone and they are buying property with their own money. Bet these idiots who complain wouldn't be too quick to complain if they knew most ofthe movers and shakers of WMA are doctors in the Maelor.

  16. Posted by: gwin coch at 22:20 on 01 September 2010 Report

    Rhys ap Gethin I couldn't agree more. I have been following activity on Facebook and am disgusted by comments I have read. As you say they aren't bothering anyone and have funded the venture themselves. I wonder how many of those whinging would decline medical treatment from a muslim nurse/ doc if their life depended on it?

  17. Posted by: daisymay at 22:44 on 01 September 2010 Report

    What have they got against Miners in this town?

  18. Posted by: greenflyer at 23:25 on 01 September 2010 Report

    strange comments on here as for saying they wont be bothering anyone what about the loud music that will be played via speakers -could you do that in public? and wait until they fill the street with asian style shops with stock all over the pavements like in bradford etc -could you do that? HSE etc

  19. Posted by: eveningreader at 23:57 on 01 September 2010 Report

    greenflyer your last post is pure speculation. We could also speculate the possibility of a muslim cleric and his followers from all over the UK visiting the new mosque - and delivering his sermon to the masses who are swamped across both lanes of Grosvernor Road at rush hour on the last Friday before Christmas.

  20. Posted by: eveningreader at 00:00 on 02 September 2010 Report

    There's always been a mosque in Wrexham. Demographic changes to the town, population and Glyndwr Uni make it sense that a bigger venue was found. Whether the Miners Institute - the gateway to Wrexham town centre and a traffic bottleneck - was the right choice of location remains to be seen. Time will tell.

  21. Posted by: karen at 00:34 on 02 September 2010 Report

    Most of the people on facebook are not even from the Wrexham area. They are just trying to stir up trouble in Wrexham for their own sick kicks. We have a mormon chrurch, catholic church, methodist church etc.. why not a mosque?

  22. Posted by: tommy at 10:17 on 02 September 2010 Report

    everyone seems to be missing the point.Religions,including this one,cathilicism,mormons ,and the rest of the sects all belong in the middle ages.I find it profoundly sad that yet another church has come to town.The whole concept of faith and religion points to the weakest side of human nature,the willingness to give up on self belief and put your faith in a mythical nonentity.It's backward,it's unscientific and it creates massive suffering.

  23. Posted by: daisielovve at 11:07 on 02 September 2010 Report

    they are not doing any harm. they have been worshipping in wrexham for 20 years its just that now they have a decent building to do it in...lets give them a chance to prove all the negative statement people wrong. at least its preserving the building cos they will look after it..

  24. Posted by: Roland Cleth at 11:35 on 02 September 2010 Report

    I agree with tommy. My only gripe is that it's another bunch of religionists. But if they can preserve the building then some good will come of it. Buildings and monuments being one of the limited pluses of organised religion.

  25. Posted by: dragoncry at 11:49 on 02 September 2010 Report

    What would the miners who gave up some of their hard earned money think?

  26. Posted by: Roland Cleth at 13:52 on 02 September 2010 Report

    dragoncry - "What would the miners who gave up some of their hard earned money think?" - On the basis that there's no mining industry left and no miners to benefit (other than those members who will be sharing the proceeds of the sale), I'd like to think that they would have no objection; particularly if the alternative was to see the building dropped by a developer.

  27. Posted by: Rhys ap Gethin at 15:52 on 02 September 2010 Report

    Dragoncry - I think you'll find that miners haven't owned the club for many a year. It has been in receivership for 2 years and it was them that sold it to the Muslim Association.

  28. Posted by: greenflyer at 18:40 on 02 September 2010 Report

    whats the betting the outside appearance will be altered even though it is in a conservation area ,make a note of the date-i told you so

  29. Posted by: Roland Cleth at 08:23 on 03 September 2010 Report

    Greenflyer - I think you'll find that the owners of the mosque will pay more attention to the conservation requirements of the building than certain local businessmen/developers would have done.

  30. Posted by: MOUNTAIN MAN at 08:53 on 03 September 2010 Report

    Roland Cleth so you are assuming that a stray JCB will not drive through the building even though it is listed.

  31. Posted by: karen at 11:58 on 03 September 2010 Report

    The facebook lot reckon there is some demo planned for Wrexham on the 18th Sept. Just another massive police bill that will take money away from other much needed resources!

  32. Posted by: Roland Cleth at 12:46 on 03 September 2010 Report

    MOUNTAIN MAN - Only if it's got "Dickens" on the side and has got lost.

  33. Posted by: greenflyer at 00:14 on 04 September 2010 Report

    roland -wake up and smell the coffee ,they will do as they want and get away with it ,no different than nev dickens except if anyone objects to there actions they will just bring out the "RACIST CARD" 1st mosque for wrexham soon to be another

  34. Posted by: greenflyer at 11:40 on 04 September 2010 Report

    couldnt agree more mr patel !!!!

  35. Posted by: tommy at 11:43 on 04 September 2010 Report

    poopatel...Just a few points...you think this is YOUR country,it's not,the UK is owned by a handful of rich conglomerates and private individuals of all nationalities.The notion that all Muslims are terrorists is just a fable put about by the ruling elite who need to provide the masses with a common enemy so that they can divide and conquer.If you want to see terrorism in action then I sugest you watch the video of the bombimg of baghdad..cont

  36. Posted by: tommy at 12:00 on 04 September 2010 Report

    .cont.My argument with Muslims is their faith .All religion belongs in the middle ages,that includes catholicism The idea of having unquestionable faith without recourse to rational thought,lays the foundations for the mindset that will unquestionably accept all kinds of authority.It' as plain as the balls on a dog that religion is a political tool,if it wasn't then it would have become extinct long ago.

  37. Posted by: greenflyer at 22:47 on 04 September 2010 Report

    if i was to set up a facebook book groupto raise funds could i go to a muslim country and build a church answers on a postcard to nwm media (leader etc)

  38. Posted by: poopatel at 22:47 on 04 September 2010 Report

    Tommy - I dont follow the ruling elite but I do follow the teachings of one Eric Cartman.

  39. Posted by: tommy at 16:18 on 05 September 2010 Report

    Hi Pooatel, Hmmm! Eric's not real you know :) :)..Wrexham planning dept have said that the mosque requires no planning consent for a change of use.I find that a big concern especially when in britain it is accepted that women are equal to men,all of a sudden wrexham council allow a men only club right slap bang in the middle of town.This should concern us all and I am waiting to see what the politically correct Tory,New Lab.Libs and Plaid have got to say about this.

  40. Posted by: greenflyer at 16:40 on 05 September 2010 Report

    they wont say anything because if they do RACIST will be shouted ,welcome to THE NEW MUSLIM COUNTRY

  41. Posted by: Roland Cleth at 08:39 on 06 September 2010 Report

    greenflyer - "...they will do as they want and get away with it..." - What, worship their particular god? That's their problem, let them get on with it. greenflyer - "...1st mosque for wrexham soon to be another..." - Firstly, how do you know this? Secondly, so what?

  42. Posted by: Roland Cleth at 08:46 on 06 September 2010 Report

    tommy - "...Wrexham planning dept have said that the mosque requires no planning consent for a change of use..." - Er, that's because it doesn't. It will already have D1 user under para's. (e) and (g) from its previous uses, and D1 also covers public worship or religious instruction under para. (h).

  43. Posted by: tommy at 09:59 on 06 September 2010 Report

    Roland...so are you saying the Horse and Jockey could hold mass :) :)..

  44. Posted by: Roland Cleth at 10:04 on 06 September 2010 Report

    Sorry, tommy, no. That's an A4 use class.

  45. Posted by: daisymay at 10:46 on 11 September 2010 Report

    As the miners owned the Miners, who has the money now? Who sold the Miners. Not the miners. Where is our money? Miners money, sorry miners money.

  46. Posted by: daisymay at 10:48 on 11 September 2010 Report

    As the miners owned the Miners, who has the money now? Who sold the Miners. Not the miners. Where is our money? Miners money, sorry miners money.

  47. Posted by: sharpee at 23:41 on 18 October 2010 Report

    just one more step forward for the muslims and one back for the rest of us. it will always be the same or the british government will fear that word "racism", and will always give in!

 

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